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dei1c3
Is the offer that is present when you first open the contract dialogue what the player is asking for?
by dei1c3 @ 12/29/2015 6:15 pm
If not, is there any way to gauge how a player is going to respond to an offer before it's given? I'd hate to offer $2m/2yrs to a guy asking for $10m/4 yrs. And I'd hate to do the opposite even more.
Chipped
Re: Is the offer that is present when you first open the contract dialogue what the player is asking for?
by Chipped @ 12/29/2015 6:52 pm
If you're talking about free agency, that doesn't matter. All you have to do to sign a free agent player is to offer more guaranteed bonus money than anyone else. Of course if the offers are on the low side the player may choose to wait until the next week of free agency to pick a contract. Basically, don't worry about what you think the player wants; worry about outbidding all the other managers.

If you're trying to sign your own player to a contract extension, you won't be allowed to make an offer if the bonus you're offering is less than what the player wants. I generally offer just enough bonus to be more than what he wants, and minimize the salary cap hit as much as possible. This typically is enough to resign a player.
jsid
Re: Is the offer that is present when you first open the contract dialogue what the player is asking for?
by jsid @ 12/30/2015 12:38 am
Chipped wrote:
If you're talking about free agency, that doesn't matter. All you have to do to sign a free agent player is to offer more guaranteed bonus money than anyone else. Of course if the offers are on the low side the player may choose to wait until the next week of free agency to pick a contract. Basically, don't worry about what you think the player wants; worry about outbidding all the other managers.

If you're trying to sign your own player to a contract extension, you won't be allowed to make an offer if the bonus you're offering is less than what the player wants. I generally offer just enough bonus to be more than what he wants, and minimize the salary cap hit as much as possible. This typically is enough to resign a player.

It's insane how many users can't figure this out.
Chipped
Re: Is the offer that is present when you first open the contract dialogue what the player is asking for?
by Chipped @ 12/30/2015 9:54 am
It's okay, we were all noobs at one point too.

Took me four leagues to finally figure out how to build a winning team.
dei1c3
Re: Is the offer that is present when you first open the contract dialogue what the player is asking for?
by dei1c3 @ 12/30/2015 1:25 pm
Thanks for the info, chipped.
Boomtower
Re: Is the offer that is present when you first open the contract dialogue what the player is asking for?
by Boomtower @ 1/11/2016 7:08 pm
Chipped wrote:
If you're talking about free agency, that doesn't matter. All you have to do to sign a free agent player is to offer more guaranteed bonus money than anyone else. Of course if the offers are on the low side the player may choose to wait until the next week of free agency to pick a contract. Basically, don't worry about what you think the player wants; worry about outbidding all the other managers.

If you're trying to sign your own player to a contract extension, you won't be allowed to make an offer if the bonus you're offering is less than what the player wants. I generally offer just enough bonus to be more than what he wants, and minimize the salary cap hit as much as possible. This typically is enough to resign a player.

But you can't really tell the bonus money owners are proposing simply by looking at the offers as only the total $/yrs shows up, do we speculate on what percentage of that is bonus?

Also, does the length of the contract offer matter at all or is it literally just guaranteed bonus money? Like if someone is offering 3 year/$5 million with $1 million bonus vs. 1 year/5 million with $1 million. Are these viewed as equal by players?
Last edited 1/12/2016 1:11 am
jdavidbakr
Re: Is the offer that is present when you first open the contract dialogue what the player is asking for?
by jdavidbakr (Site Admin) @ 1/11/2016 7:32 pm
The bonuses are obscured intentionally - you don't know which offer is actually the one with the highest bonus money. The more bonus money offered, the higher the risk (because you can't easily move or renegotiate the player during the contract) and the higher the likelihood they will sign with you. The bonus money is the primary consideration, but the base salary does play in some so it is possible for a player to take a lower bonus for a higher base salary and a longer contract.
Boomtower
Re: Is the offer that is present when you first open the contract dialogue what the player is asking for?
by Boomtower @ 1/11/2016 7:43 pm
Got it. Thanks.

btw - When I got the email that this thread was updated, the link took me into MFN-1 for some reason.