TAFIV wrote:
i agree completely on the weight issue for instance in real life a 250 lb linebacker will have no problem at all tackling a 200 lb running back or wide receiver (if they can hit him anyways) but a 200 lb cornerback or safety better know what he's doing if he's trying to tackle a 250 lb tight end or fullback
and that doesn't even bring in the strength/build issue the way i look at it is 0-100 strength should be a % basically how much of his potential strength does he have?
i'm referring to the fact that a 185 lb man will VERY rarely have the same strength as a 285 lb man unless he works out a LOT and that's only if that 285 lb man doesn't work out, if they work out the same amount that 185 lb man will NEVER catch up on brute strength because of the weight/build difference (if a guy weighs 285 lbs that means every second of every day he is getting the same workout as if the 185 lb guy was wearing a 100 lb weight vest)
as an example most people that work out a little (not a lot maybe 1 or 2 days a week at the gym) can bench press their own weight i would call that a baseline amount maybe rate that a 50 so a 0 would be maybe 1/2 your weight while 100 would be twice your weight still impressive to do but a HUGE difference depending on the weight of a person.
here's why with the above values:
185 lb man --- 0 = 92.5 lbs, 50 = 185 lbs, 100 = 370 lbs
285 lb man --- 0 = 142.5 lbs, 50 = 285 lbs, 100 = 570 lbs
both very impressive at 100 but i know which one i would want in a DL or OL
so back to my comparison
285 lb that doesn't work out has 50 rating 285 lb bench press
to get the same bench press the 185 lb man would have to have a 77 rating
i just think this would be more realistic
I like the concept of the scale but most nflers can bench 225. That should be start for the lightest player. Its the combines measure. As they get bigger most players can bench 225lbs over 10 times. That's like a zero to me here if the guy is big.
The combines bench is a consistent measure for what a player could actually max bench. In top athletes the numbers seem to follow a pattern. So, to me the high on the strength scale are the guys who dominated in combine bench scores.
Linemen highs are like 50 reps . Also most 1st round linemen score over 30 reps.
So here to me desirable for a guy like 300 pounds above a 50 rating in strength. To me he could bench 225 30 times at the combine which is suitable for the NFL why not here.
The high an low combine scores follow the same pattern with players with similar builds. All the way down to WR qb and kicker who do not participate cause the can't bench 225 once cause they weigh 185 or lighter. Still many WRs qbs and cbs have great success in the nfl despite there low or non existing scores.
Still , I think it was jared allen, scored horrid in the bench but still had a solid career as a d line men. That would make for like a 20 rating here in strength. Where I like a 70 at least. But I think he had lighting fast first step for his size. Blowing away shuttle scores.
Eventually I want to do combine scores for rookies but I am not sure how to incorporate the vertical. Pass courage idk.