I totally agree that increased values for picks should not inhibit trading. I think the pick values should be increased, enough to where a 1st round pick is worth twice what they are now, which would put most in the 1100 - 1200 range. As opposed to 550, which is way out of line with their true value. If someone wants to trade their first round pick before the value is established by predicted finish or actual finish, that could be figured similar to the way it is now but at twice the value. Bring down the values of the top 5 where you can still trade a lower 1st round pick with a player or second pick to do so. Maybe the total range of player and pick values can be reduced to between 1 and 2000 or something similar. Just throwing out ideas. As it is, an 8 yr TE with good atts/def value is worth over 2000 in many cases, how are you supposed to trade for him if you wanted to? Do you think it would be good value to trade a 1.15 (600) plus another pick or player worth 400? Which at the present values, a high two rounder is worth less than 400. Or an elite CB, 8 yr vet, with all the good atts, should he still be worth 2300 or more? Maybe, depends on what you can get with a first rounder, usually you cant get an elite DB if there is only 2 or 3 generated for the draft. Which is why being able to trade up into the top picks is pretty critical if you want to get an elite DB.

Good theory, but you will be just matching talent like college. I like the pro model because they use techniques for parity. College is who gets the most bluechippers wins . Like the game is now.

This opinion is only to drive parity not accept it. The farther the base code is from this the more this game will be like college, highchool and pee wee. For advanced, intermediate, and beginner.

I am ok with that, but with out a relective cap this game is resevered for those levels in the way talent can be aquired and held on to. Changing base structures that make for close exiting games fans will watch. Pay the big bucks.

Until the point that every user who plays MFN has basically the same knowledge / intelligence / experience / commitment as all the others, the parity in MFN will always be more like college than the NFL.

Still as the nfl has all elite athletes and college less in comparison, true, but a league here with elite owners only will still be like college.

Because of the parity the nfl creates, to prevent what the yankees did to ensure exciting close games for many years. Look who makes the most money. Now.

Our loose cap acts like a college gobbling up all the bluechippers. In what ever way possible.

Without proper cap distribution this level of parity will never be here.

Look at the trade in 75. Say it ends up a 1.15 for a 2.15.

With every team there having 30 mil in cap...there is not the same risk when trading picks now with volatility shown.

IRL that 1.15 bonus would be close to 10 mil. and the 2.15 more like 2 mil. Not every team should have that 8 mil to spare.

In 75 everybody has alot of cap space and the difference of those picks is more like only a few million not 8 mil. This can happen way too much, which is another factor, no matter talent level, that adds to lack of parity.


It is getting to a point where trading is who you know not what you know. Just a bunch of corrupt fat cats moving money around defending a broken structure. I dont want to play that game.

This is why the nfl keeps parity no matter what owner do. No body want to watch the pats win year in and year out. That would kill the nfls revenue. Which is going up every year. The nfls cap does not go up if revenue does not go up too.

How many drafts have you been in and stayed past the 2nd season ? because free agency does happen. And to compare 1-15 and a 2-15 because of salary is not the way you evaluate the trade and consider anything because of it. Fact is he has to hit on that pick and so do I and that's what really matters not the cap.

This is the dumbest most negative way of seeing things and In a way kinda bashing the league. Your referring to mine and jsid trade and his track record is a bit better then yours and saying him or I don't know what we're doing or one team is getting a steal from this trade and one day will be the pats . Come on man

For the record, I like to trade, and I don't know anyone else who plays MFN.

I will consider offering (or accepting) a trade with any owner in these leagues, except one.

And the only thing I take into consideration regarding trades is "Do I think this trade will help me accomplish my goals with this team?".

I don't care how many star players or draft picks or cap space another team has, as we are all playing under the same rules.

It has been stated over and over again that changes have been made so that it will be harder to keep star players AND a lot of cap space, but that those changes will take time before you start seeing a noticeable effect. Yet people still complain about this issue as if nothing has been done. As if all of a sudden we should log in one day to find out everyone's cap space has been cut by $30 million or the good players all of sudden have much higher contracts.

Ya I wasn't trying to snap on Ray I just don't understand the negative ways of looking at every thing to do with the game. I gotta get off these forums I'm annoying myself . lol I love the passing engine I thing trading is awesome . I never have seen or thought my playbooks were not running the way I had them, and also I join most leagues that I do to start a dog fight with super teams. Now that's positive . Peace

It is the only way to. This is how the nfl structure is based. And hitting here is nothing like the nfl. Here a pick will fall in to parameters based on the code. One that favors high picks in comparison. Block buster trades dont happen here the sme way. The window is larger for trafes to happen. Thats it. We have more trades. Thats it. Because of cap.

JDB created the parameters. We all play. No fault. No finger pointing. Jusr a loose cap to blame along with the value of a high pick being off.

I am try to nail this on the head. Not muttle it with non sense... slander...please stop inferring negativity.