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warrior462
Re: May 2026 Update
by warrior462 @ 5/28/2026 11:30 am
2026 2026 Pre-Season Midweek Week 3 #96 Brandon Delgado Rejected contract offer from Centurions ($813,261, 4 yrs)
2026 2026 Pre-Season Midweek Week 3 #96 Brandon Delgado Signed contract with Samurai ($414,300, 3 yrs)

Free agent signings have serious issues. We can't just continue like this.
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warrior462
Re: May 2026 Update
by warrior462 @ 5/28/2026 11:41 am
2077 2077 Free Agency Week 3 #12 Todd Denault Rejected contract offer from Indianapolis ($26,543, 1 yrs)
2077 2077 Free Agency Week 3 #12 Todd Denault Signed contract with Carolina ($46,247, 1 yrs)

The SIM before this guy signed, his card was showing that he had several big multi year offers. I was shocked to get him, and see that the only other offer reflected was a smaller 1 year. I suppose it's possible that everybody else rescinded their offers, but that would be surprising.
martinwarnett
Re: May 2026 Update
by martinwarnett @ 5/28/2026 3:18 pm
Without being privy to all the factors going into signings, it's difficult to say.

On one hand an absolutist approach is "highest figure" wins, which is just an arms race. If other things were considered - ie a RB being offered a deal when there's already 6 on the roster, for example...
martinwarnett
Re: May 2026 Update
by martinwarnett @ 5/28/2026 5:38 pm
The key factor is the guaranteed money.

Where a bonus is larger, then the salary is lower, which explains what you're seeing.
warrior462
Re: May 2026 Update
by warrior462 @ 5/28/2026 7:30 pm
martinwarnett wrote:
The key factor is the guaranteed money.

The bonus I offered that LB couldn't have been beaten by the offer that he accepted over mine.
martinwarnett
Re: May 2026 Update
by martinwarnett @ 5/29/2026 3:29 am
Which one? It's difficult to tell which player you're referring to when you say LB. Without knowing the league, can't look at things.
jdavidbakr
Re: May 2026 Update
by jdavidbakr (Site Admin) @ 5/29/2026 1:53 pm
The player evaluation primarily favors guaranteed money, but the base salary is also considered and how it's distributed over the contract, the earlier years weigh more heavily than the later years. If you have two identical offers with identical bonuses but one offer has a 10% yearly increase and the other has the minimum increase with the last year back-loaded for the same total, he'll take the one that's not back-loaded. If two offers are a perfect tie in the algorithm, then it's random. You can also have an offer where you have a higher bonus than another offer, but the other offer has a higher first year base salary, and depending on how different it is he may choose the higher base salary.

I've tried to make it difficult to game the offer system.

Of course, if it's during the season, the offer will be rejected if it will take you over the cap.
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TheWitchHunter
Re: May 2026 Update
by TheWitchHunter @ 5/29/2026 8:53 pm
martinwarnett wrote:
Without being privy to all the factors going into signings, it's difficult to say.

On one hand an absolutist approach is "highest figure" wins, which is just an arms race. If other things were considered - ie a RB being offered a deal when there's already 6 on the roster, for example...
Are you implying or directly stating that other factors (IE: the # of players at position: that players now consider their opportunities to play/start being the example you specifically referenced) beyond the salary offered are now in play?
...and if other factors are now directly related to a player signing a contract - what are those factors?

Youve alluded to knowing information regarding contracts - information that is now considered but was not a consideration in the past - now being a factor in FA.
EIther everyone knows, or only beta's know.
That would be the cheating I previously implied that you PMd me about, martin.

IF a change is made that impacts and affects alpha, then EVERYONE must know about these changes.

You've implied that players now considerb things outside of money per yr per number of years. If this is now a factor in Alpha, then every one needs to know all the variables now in play.
What's the truth? Why are you implying that you know the number of players currently under contract at a position will and does impact if a FA will sign a contract?

It's been stated that changes are being made to the engine - and you directly stated that players now consider the number of players currently at their position is a factor in IF that FA will sign at that position.

That's is NOT community knowledge.
This instance is EXACTLY the inside information cheating I previously alluded to, and that you PMd me about for further exploration.

I don't need to explain why I think there's inside info being used by beta's in alpha league play. I definitely want to know why ygou stated FAs now also consider how many players are already under contract at a position by the team offering a contract to a FA at any position.
That's inside info we knew nothing about - but you stated players now consider who's already on the team at their position.

I request full transparency regarding any changes made and in effect or that are proposed to / likely to be immediately affecting MFN game play in al regards to be revealed to all players in MFN, and not just beta testers.
Especially when concerning any changes directly made to MFN Alpha.

ONce again, we've got new information to work with that was in effect, but had yet to be announced to the MFN community at large.

I look forward to the response.
martinwarnett
Re: May 2026 Update
by martinwarnett @ 5/30/2026 4:52 am
And as I told you privately, if you've any evidence of anyone using such knowledge to gain an advantage, I'd be calling them out.

I'll happily give you the benefit of the doubt that you've misinterpreted what I wrote, also happy to clarify what was meant.

Without being privy to all the factors going into signings, it's difficult to say.

That there is a clear statement that I have no knowledge of every factor used when players make decisions re contracts.

On one hand an absolutist approach is "highest figure" wins, which is just an arms race. If other things were considered - ie a RB being offered a deal when there's already 6 on the roster, for example...

A simple thought of mine, given not knowing what fully factors into contract considerations - something JDB has cleared up in this thread.

I personally think the game would benefit by having things other than financial figures involved when players make the decision - as I gave an example, if you've 6 RBs already, would a RB want to join a crowded backfield where snaps may be minimal?

Now with regard to your comments.

Are you implying or directly stating that other factors (IE: the # of players at position: that players now consider their opportunities to play/start being the example you specifically referenced) beyond the salary offered are now in play?

No implication or direct stating was made.

...and if other factors are now directly related to a player signing a contract - what are those factors?

There are none, as JDB confirmed.

Youve alluded to knowing information regarding contracts - information that is now considered but was not a consideration in the past - now being a factor in FA.

No allusion was made.

EIther everyone knows, or only beta's know.

Agree to a point - spitballing of ideas is a different kettle of fish, but changes being pushed into general leagues once tested in MFN-1 need to be well publicised.

That would be the cheating I previously implied that you PMd me about, martin.

I asked you to name names, which you failed to do.

IF a change is made that impacts and affects alpha, then EVERYONE must know about these changes.

In first instance, anyone in MFN-1 needs to know of sim changes, for example to be abo to effectively test them. JDB posts changes in the league forums there. Once stable - and changes could be reverted- then everyone needs to know when rolled out to other leagues.

You've implied that players now considerb things outside of money per yr per number of years. If this is now a factor in Alpha, then every one needs to know all the variables now in play.

No implication was made.

What's the truth? Why are you implying that you know the number of players currently under contract at a position will and does impact if a FA will sign a contract?

Truth is players consider salary and bonus as JDB stated. I implied no such thing - I suggested, NOT KNOWING ALL FACTORS CONSIDERED, that might be a possible factor considered. It's not.

It's been stated that changes are being made to the engine - and you directly stated that players now consider the number of players currently at their position is a factor in IF that FA will sign at that position.

Well duh, changes are made to the engine on all areas or the game wouldn't be progressing.
Yet again, didn't directly state any such thing.

That's is NOT community knowledge.
This instance is EXACTLY the inside information cheating I previously alluded to, and that you PMd me about for further exploration.

It sounds like you're tiptoeing around making a very serious allegation. I'd suggest given your clear mistake on this matter, it gets dropped.

I PM'd you asking for your evidence and knowledge of people abusing helping JDB. You failed to provide any names or evidence. Interesting you suddenly claim this misunderstanding on your part as evidence to bolster your claim.

I don't need to explain why I think there's inside info being used by beta's in alpha league play. I definitely want to know why ygou stated FAs now also consider how many players are already under contract at a position by the team offering a contract to a FA at any position.

I think you do need to explain because this is starting to feel like a witchhunt. Pun intended. I would definitely like to know why you're falsely representing comments made?


That's inside info we knew nothing about - but you stated players now consider who's already on the team at their position.

Repeating a lie does not make it truth.

I request full transparency regarding any changes made and in effect or that are proposed to / likely to be immediately affecting MFN game play in al regards to be revealed to all players in MFN, and not just beta testers.
Especially when concerning any changes directly made to MFN Alpha.

The only point I agree with you on. Roadmap should be better publicised, changes better publicised once rolled out to leagues.

ONce again, we've got new information to work with that was in effect, but had yet to be announced to the MFN community at large.

We don't. We have clarification from JDB about what players consider.

I look forward to the response.

I doubt you'll like the response.

There's no big conspiracy, the cake is not a lie.
Last edited 5/30/2026 9:05 am
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martinwarnett
Re: May 2026 Update
by martinwarnett @ 5/30/2026 5:17 am
PS,

If you wish to accuse me of exploiting any knowledge to gain an advantage in game, then I humbly request that you actually bother looking at my record in leagues.

If your claim then becomes "Well, you deliberately **** to prevent people seeing you exploiting knowledge to win", then I'd suggest the claim really doesn't have much merit at all.
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